God help us.

Back after a long delay...

This drives me crazy.... Really really crazy, crazy as in " I can't even process this"- head exploding. I think they do not understand what it means to be a Christian. I can't understand it, sometimes I feel like I have more world-view in common with atheists.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/30/religion.torture/index.html

" WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The more often Americans go to church, the more likely they are to support the torture of suspected terrorists, according to a new survey.
More than half of people who attend services at least once a week -- 54 percent -- said the use of torture against suspected terrorists is "often" or "sometimes" justified. Only 42 percent of people who "seldom or never" go to services agreed, according to the analysis released Wednesday by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life.
White evangelical Protestants were the religious group most likely to say torture is often or sometimes justified -- more than six in 10 supported it. People unaffiliated with any religious organization were least likely to back it. Only four in 10 of them did.
The analysis is based on a Pew Research Center survey of 742 American adults conducted April 14-21. It did not include analysis of groups other than white evangelicals, white non-Hispanic Catholics, white mainline Protestants and the religiously unaffiliated, because the sample size was too small. See results of the survey »
The president of the National Association of Evangelicals, Leith Anderson, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
The survey asked: "Do you think the use of torture against suspected terrorists in order to gain important information can often be justified, sometimes be justified, rarely be justified, or never be justified?"
Roughly half of all respondents -- 49 percent -- said it is often or sometimes justified. A quarter said it never is.
The religious group most likely to say torture is never justified was Protestant denominations -- such as Episcopalians, Lutherans and Presbyterians -- categorized as "mainline" Protestants, in contrast to evangelicals. Just over three in 10 of them said torture is never justified. A quarter of the religiously unaffiliated said the same, compared with two in 10 white non-Hispanic Catholics and one in eight evangelicals. "

So I'm supposed to feel better that 30% of "mainline" Lutherans think that torture is NEVER justified, as opposed to "Evangelicals"....

Obama reply

Senator Obama's reply to an email I sent regarding news last week about keeping the Guantanamo prisoners in small boxes/cells for extended lengths of time.


Dear L__:

Thank you for contacting me regarding this Administration's use of inhumane interrogation practices. I appreciate knowing of your concerns.

This issue has been the subject of heated legal debate for quite some time now. The United States is a nation born out of a struggle against tyranny, and our Constitution asserts that the rule of law applies to all men and women, and all branches and agencies of government. Time and again, America has triumphed because of the sharp contrast we draw to tyranny. In those battles, our allegiance to our values and the rule of law has been our greatest weapon.

Today, we are engaged in a new kind of battle. And the debate in which we have been engaged since September 11, 2001, is how we are going to respond to the shadowy, stateless, terrorist enemies of the 21st century. Tragically, the Bush Administration has too often chosen to respond to this enemy by abandoning our greatest weapon, by ignoring the values and laws that it deems inconvenient. Violating international treaties we ratified and U.S. laws that protect us, the Bush Administration has used excessive secrecy, indefinite detention, warrantless wiretapping, and "enhanced interrogation techniques" like simulated drowning that qualify as torture under any reasonable reading of the law. For a nation with a history marked by the torture of hundreds of American soldiers in Vietnamese prisons, it is troubling to think that any lawmaker views the practice of torture as effective or justified.

When the Senate conducted debate on the Department of Defense Appropriations Act for FY 2006, Senator John McCain (R-AZ), who endured years of torture as a POW during the Vietnam War, offered an amendment to the bill that requires all military interrogations to abide by the U.S. Army Field Manual’s standards for humane treatment and prohibits “cruel, inhuman or degrading" treatment of any prisoner detained by the U.S. You may be interested to know that the Army Field Manual 34-52, Chapter 1, explicitly states:

The use of force, mental torture, threats, insults, or exposure to unpleasant and inhumane treatment of any kind is prohibited by law and is neither authorized nor condoned by the U.S. Government. Experience indicates that the use of force is not necessary to gain the cooperation of sources for interrogation . . . as it yields unreliable results, may damage subsequent collection efforts, and can induce the source to say whatever he thinks the interrogator wants to hear. . . . it also may place U.S. and allied personnel in enemy hands at greater risk.

We know that torture does not work. We know that torture violates our laws. And we know that when we detain suspects without trial or ship them off in the dead of night to countries where we know they’ll be tortured, we compromise our own security and weaken our ability to press for human rights and the rule of law in despotic regimes. On this issue, former Secretary of State Colin Powell concluded: “Torture is torture is torture. It is unacceptable. It is not the way you treat human beings.”

I was proud to vote for Senator McCain’s amendment, which passed by a vote of 90-9 with clear support from both political parties. I am also a proud co-sponsor of a bipartisan bill to restore habeas corpus rights, the Habeas Corpus Restoration Act of 2007 (S. 185). In light of the CIA’s confirmation that videotapes depicting brutal interrogation techniques were destroyed, I was heartened that the House and Senate passed the FY 2008 Intelligence Authorization bill and included a requirement that subjects CIA interrogators to the same guidelines included in the Army Field Manual. However, the President vetoed this legislation on March 8, and unfortunately the House failed to gather enough votes for a two-thirds majority to override the veto.

As you may know, on June 12, 2008, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the habeas rights of the remaining detainees at the U.S. military base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. This recent decision is an important step toward reestablishing our credibility as a nation committed to the rule of law, and rejecting a false choice between fighting terrorism and respecting habeas corpus. I commend the Court's decision, and will continue to advocate for oversight and inquiry into the Administration's detainee policy to ensure that the very values we are fighting to defend are protected and upheld.

L__, thank you again for writing. I hope you will stay in touch.

Sincerely,

Barack Obama

United States Senator

unlawful imprisonment

An eight-month McClatchy investigation in 11 countries on three continents has found that ....dozens of men — and, according to several officials, perhaps hundreds — whom the U.S. has wrongfully imprisoned in Afghanistan, Cuba and elsewhere on the basis of flimsy or fabricated evidence, old personal scores or bounty payments.

Amen & Hallelujah

Habeus survives :

"To hold that the political branches may switch the Constitution on and off at will would lead to a regime in which they, not this Court, say "what the law is... Security subsists, too, in fidelity to freedom's first principles. Chief among these are freedom from arbitrary and unlawful restraint and the personal liberty that is secured by adherence to the separation of powers ... Within the Constitution's separation-of-powers structure, few exercises of judicial power are as legitimate or as necessary as the responsibility to hear challenges to the authority of the Executive to imprison a person."


NY TIMES link

Geneva Conventions

Andrew Sullivan has a great post on the continuing Torture Watch

" Moreover, even after attempts by the Court and the Congress to rein in these methods - which were once prosecuted by the US as war-crimes - the president continued to defend, use and advance violations of Common Article Three in violation of the law and the Constitution. In the last week, we have also learned the following: that some Gitmo inmates have testified to being injected with some kind of substance
....
We have also discovered that the president is still insisting that he has the power to violate Geneva at will on a case-by-case basis, rendering the rule of law moot and the Constitution toothless.
....
We also know that the torture and interrogation camp at Guantanamo Bay has become for many of its inmates the functional equivalent of a lunatic asylum"

RTWT for links and examples.

Senate- torture approved?

Per an action request here, I sent this to members of the Senate's Select Committee on Intelligence:

Dear Senator:

President Bush has admitted to torture. Even more, he has admitted recently that his cabal has been involved in every detail of it. Nobody is shocked to the point of taking legislative action to remedy this? God help us! As a member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, I believe you can still do something. Please, won't you?

According to a published letter from your colleague on this committee, Senator Chambliss, the committee has “thoroughly reviewed this program's history, continues to monitor the CIA's interrogation methods and has found it both legal and effective.” (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/14/104220/785/951/495347)

Since you know about the CIA torture program, do you personally approve of the United States engaging in acts of torture? If you do not approve of President Bush’s illegal actions, will you go on record to speak out against them?

Torture is a war crime and crime against humanity. By not taking any action to bring about justice, we, average citizens and senators alike, are all complicit in these atrocities.

Sincerely,
L___ Z____

Congress = Captain Renault from "Casablanca"

I had to chuckle when I heard Ken Olbermann's guest Jonathan Turley from George Washington University make this comment regarding the Torture Principals meetings in the White House and whether or not their will ever be a war crimes trial:

" Congress is like a convention of Claude Raines actors -- everyone is saying we're "shocked, Shocked!" that there's torture being discussed at the White House - nobody's doing anything about it"



I had a similar thought in a earlier post back in December (watch the clip!). I love the actor Claude Rains so much, Congress would be giving him a bad rap in the comparison. Still, the character Capt. Renault redeems himself by the end of the movie so let's hope its a somewhat apt comparison...

Matthew Diaz

Heroic- I hadn't heard this story about a military lawyer at Guantanamo:

"The decision to withhold the information had been taken, in defiance of law, by senior political figures in the Bush Administration. Diaz was aware of it, and he knew it was unlawful. He printed out a copy of the names and sent them to a civil rights lawyer who had requested them in federal court proceedings. "

Wow - he's brave. Really brave. RTWT. I love how it was sent with a Valentine's card. Indeed.

Not buying gas from Chevron

My email to Chevron:

Sent: Mon 4/07/08 12:50 PM
To: comment@chevron.com

To whom it may concern:

I am writing to let you know I will no longer be buying gas from Chevron since I learned today that you have appointed Jim Haynes to be your incoming corporate counsel. He has shredded the US Constitution and been an advocate for torture.
http://harpers.org/archive/2008/04/hbc-90002785

Sincerely,
L____Z____


Digging around, you can uncover lots of other reasons to do so also...

Update (4/8/08):

"It's a role that the Senate Armed Services Committee, overseen by Sen. Carl Levin and its ranking Republican member, Sen. John McCain, has been quietly but aggressively scrutinizing during a two-year investigation. Two sources familiar with the probe, who asked not to be identified discussing sensitive matters, say the panel's investigators have grilled a number of key players—including Special Forces operatives and FBI agents—who were never previously questioned. The panel notified the Pentagon in early February that it wanted to question Haynes. Before receiving any response, investigators learned on Feb. 25 that Haynes was leaving for Chevron in San Francisco. "How often does somebody like that give two weeks' notice and leave town?" said one government source familiar with the sequence of events."

Misc. updates from last week

Well I'm back after a break for a beach vacation in FL. Yeah! I wasn't on a total news blackout, but it felt like it. Its strange not to be surfing the web and having news come at you all day every day. I need to make a concerted effort to be more diligent about controlling the amount of time I spend on being a news junkie and internet addict. Ugh.

That said here are the top links I've read today, some about things I didn't hear much about last week.

(1) The Yoo memos: There was an excerpt in the Trib today about evilness (my summary) of John Yoo and his ideas that all bets are off wrt Torture if President Bush wants to be in a perpetual state of war. If I was a student on his campus I would protest all of his classes at Berkeley.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/04/the-guilty-men.html
(fortunately for me, but not him, AS was not blogging much last week either!)
plus http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/yoo_i_thought_torture_was_a_ba.php
http://harpers.org/archive/2008/04/hbc-90002785
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/04/memo_justified_warrantless_sur.php
http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/convictions/archive/2008/04/01/yoo-s-utter-glib-certainty.aspx
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/05/guantanamo200805?currentPage=1
looks like a must read

(2) http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/04/worse-case.html
ooh - a great quote, from 1954:
"There is something about this quest for absolute security that is self-defeating. It is an exercise which, like every form of perfectionism, undermines and destroys its own basic purpose. The French have their wonderful proverb: Le mieux est l'ennemi du bien--the absolute best is the enemy of the good. Nothing truer has ever been said . A foreign policy aimed at the achievement of total security is the one thing I can think of that is entirely capable of bringing this country to a point where it will have no security at all. And a ruthless, reckless insistence on attempting to stamp out everything that could conceivably constitute a reflection of improper foreign influence in our national life, regardless of the actual damage it is doing to the cost of eliminating it, in terms of other American values, is the one thing I can think of that should reduce us all to a point where the very independence we are seeking to defend would be meaningless, for we would be doing things to ourselves as vicious and tyrannical as any that might be brought to us from outside.
" -George F. Kennan's 1954 The Illusion of Security

(3) http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/04/by-patrick-toda.html
MLK Letter from Birmingham jail excerpt - more to come about our detour stop in Montgomery AL...

(4) and speaking of Alabama....Siegelman released!
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/siegelman_released_from_prison.php
I actually saw the headline in the paper WHILE I was checking into a hotel in Montgomery. Just a litte factoid... the Dexter Ave Baptist church where MLK preached is less than 2 blocks from the AL statehouse... Its on the same street! -in view of each other. More on this later once I get my pictures uploaded. Anyway it just struck me as a personal coincidence that this happened while I was there - in the town of the scene of the crime, so to speak.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSeL9Pkmt2M
Wow and I thought IL & Chicago politics took the cake.

Update on "Jane Doe" inquiry IDOC

Update on Previous Posts:

I received this email reply today from Roger Walker, the Director of the Illinois Department of Corrections:

" Dear Ms. Z___:

Thank you very much for your correspondence regarding the newspaper articles you reference in your note. Please know that I share your concerns regarding the safety of inmates in our custody. I would like to make one thing very clear, I do not and will not condone the type of behavior that is claimed in the Tribune story. During my tenure as director we have been aggressive in following up on allegations of sexual misconduct, we have also been aggressive in prosecuting these cases as well. I wanted to respond to your note to let you know I will not tolerate this type of behavior.

Sincerely,
Roger E. Walker Jr.
Director
Illinois Department of Corrections
1301 Concordia Court
Springfield, IL 62794 "

Here is my email to him, sent March 18th:

Dear Mr. Walker :

I have contacted Gov. Blagojevich and my local state Rep. Sandra Pihos (House district #42) and Senator Durbin to express my deep dismay at the atrocities alleged to be committed by male guards against female inmates at Dwight. I hope that you will do everything possible to ensure that this never happens again. I hope that you will act immediately to institute policies to safeguard women who make future allegations, instead of putting them in seclusion/segregation where they are even more vulnerable to abuse! Those guards need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. WHy do you want criminals working for you? This is a travesty and a shame upon our state. Please abide by the 8th Amendment of the Constitution, respect the taxpayers of Illinois and ensure that justice is carried out in a fair and humane manner.

Sincerely, L____ Z_____

forwarded
From: lz___

To: community@sandrapihos.comSubject: questionDate: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 11:22:25 -0600

Hi Sandy: I just sent this letter to the Governor, and a different email to Senator Durbin about an article I read in the Tribune on Tuesday:
" As chief executive law officer in our state I would like to bring this to your attention:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-prison-rape-04mar04,0,739400.story
Do you know this warden Mary Sigler, or Roger Walker the person who runs IDOC. Do you have confidence in their leadership? It appears that this tragic woman and perhaps many others are being illegally submitted to "cruel and unusual" punishment -- by that I mean, repeatedly gang-raped and impregnated (!) by state officers. Can you do anything about this?? This is beyond horrendous.... Please look into this and make sure that prisoners are not being tortured under the incarceration of the State of Illinois. This level of abuse IS torture, plain and simple. I beg you to clean up IDOC. I don't even know anyone in prison but there must be some basic level of sympathy and compassion for women who have had to endure this.
Sincerely,
L___Z____

Is there a committee in the IL House that has oversight on these kinds of issues? Can you please ask them to investigate this. It defies explanation. This topic is yucky to say the least, but I think as officials in our state you and your colleagues have a responsibility to ensure the safety of the citizen's in the State, ESPECIALLY if they are under the "lock & key" of the State! All of these guards need to be punished to the fullest extent of the law, not just the one whose DNA matches the baby. The management of these facilities needs to ensure that there is NO ABUSE. ( Follow the law, the EIGHTH Amendment!). If the wardens and IDOC managers can't do that, then they need to be removed from those positions of authority.

Thanks,

L____

Abu Ghraib photo background

Fascinating piece about the Abu Ghraib soldier/photographer in the New Yorker (by Philip Gourevitch and Errol Morris )

Its been awhile since I've thought about "the photo", why it was so iconic since many of the abuses were even so much worse than that... this excerpt strikes me as very relevant during Holy Week

Harman was right: there were worse pictures than Gilligan. But, leaving aside that photographs of death and nudity, however newsworthy, don’t get much play in the press, the power of an image does not necessarily lie in what it depicts. A photograph of a mangled cadaver, or of a naked man trussed in torment, can shock and outrage, provoke protest and investigation, but it leaves little to the imagination. It may be rich in practical information, while being devoid of any broader meaning. To the extent that it represents any circumstances or conditions beyond itself, it does so generically. Such photographs are repellent, in large part because they have a terrible, reductive sameness. Except from a forensic point of view, they are unambiguous, and have the quality of pornography. They are what they show, nothing more. They communicate no vision and, shorn of context, they offer little, if anything, to think about, no occasion for wonder. They have no value as symbols.

Of course, the dominant symbol of Western civilization is the figure of a nearly naked man, tortured to death—or, more simply, the torture implement itself, the cross. But our pictures of the savage death of Jesus are the product of religious imagination and idealization. In reality, he must have been ghastly to behold. Had there been cameras at Calvary, would twenty centuries of believers have been moved to hang photographs of the scene on their altarpieces and in their homes?

The image of Gilligan achieves its power from the fact that it does not show the human form laid bare and reduced to raw matter but creates instead an original image of inhumanity that admits no immediately self-evident reading. Its fascination resides, in large part, in its mystery and inscrutability—in all that is concealed by all that it reveals. It is an image of carnival weirdness: this upright body shrouded from head to foot; those wires; that pose; and the peaked hood that carries so many vague and ghoulish associations. The pose is obviously contrived and theatrical, a deliberate invention that appears to belong to some dark ritual, a primal scene of martyrdom. The picture transfixes us because it looks like the truth, but, looking at it, we can only imagine what that truth is: torture, execution, a scene staged for the camera? So we seize on the figure of Gilligan as a symbol that stands for all that we know was wrong at Abu Ghraib and all that we cannot—or do not want to—understand about how it came to this"

No Torture. NoExceptions

Wow - this should about cover every possible reason to end torture - NO TORTURE. NO EXCEPTIONS from the Washington Monthly- I'm going to read as much as I can. Maybe I will buy a copy and send it to Rep Roskam.
(h/t Matt Yglesias at The Atlantic)

Abortion & Torture

I think this is an interesting post (h/t Andrew Sullivan) . Read all the comments too -some smart people over there... will have to go back and visit this site, very philosophical... I've thought a lot about this recently, wondering to myself "why" am I so obsessed with this torture issue? I had a feeling like "I bet this is how pro-life protesters feel about their cause... like, WHY aren't more people UPSET about this??!! "

" Yet--have I missed something? I did, after all, attempt to separate the "monstrousness" of an act from its ultimate evil. I believe, after all, that wrong-doing requires intention. Killing someone accidentally is a fault, but not the same wrong as killing someone intentionally. Is it different, then, for a woman who does not believe she is killing a human being to abort a nascent child than for a soldier to torture someone? I think it is. Dramatically so. Many women believe they are acting out of compassion (however mistakenly); is it possible for a torturer to hold similar beliefs? To put it poetically: how blackened are the souls of all involved in torture? How blackened are the souls of all involved in abortion?

I think torture is the most manifestly destructive to all human goodness, because it is less possible to commit the crime through simple error. It requires significant subversion of a person's humanity to make him into a torturer (even if it is frighteningly easy to do), whereas it requires significant attention to specific arguments to convince someone of the evil of abortion. As such, I think we need to pay greater attention to obliterating all instances of torture than to obliterating instances of abortion."

RTWT! This also reminds me about a book I finished a couple of weeks ago..."Fear Up Harsh: An Army Interrogator's Dark Journey Through Iraq". The author Tony Lagouranis details the devolution of torture and how easily it spreads... how it doesn't WORK to get good information and mainly how it had such a horrible effect on his psyche knowing that he was capable of evil in these circumstances. The soldiers have to deal with this there and when they come back.... Good summary story from the Chicago Reader

Update on Jane Doe

Update on yesterday's post
In addition to the letter to the Trib, I sent emails asking my elected officials ( Blago, Pihos, Durbin) and the Midwest Chapter of Amnesty International asking them all to look into this crime. I also sent a letter of support to her lawyer.

I received a reply from Sandy Pihos- my state rep. She said she shares my concern, did not have any other info on the situation yet, but when back in Springfield " will question where they are in the process". Her lawyer said she's hoping to make this into a class action - -which just means there are going to be more horrible stories to come - but hopefully a higher awareness will help solve the problem sooner.

Another update: from Flying Hamsters of Doom ( Note to self -remember to include contact details like this so other people reading it can take action- duh!) I liked reading this blog.

Letter to Senator Durbin -Rule of Law?

Dear Senator Durbin:

In light of our recent correspondence regarding the Mukasey nomination and his subsequent legal support of President Bush's unconsitutional policies....Here's an interesting editorial I whole-heartedly agree with:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-turley4mar04,0,4839406.story

I don't know what you can do, but you must do something. We need to have rule of law, not a king who can have his minions tell us what the law is or is not.

"Check and Balance" the Executive branch!!! Tell your Democratic colleagues not to capitulate. Somebody needs to call them out and call "a spade a spade". Ask him to explain this paradox. Is there ANY situation in which he would find any hypothetical crime the President committed worthy of the Justice Dept's investigation --if the President's lawyers told him it was legal?

Speaking of rule of law back in Illinois... did you see this in the Trib? http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-prison-rape-04mar04,0,739400.story
Do you know this warden Mary Sigler, or Roger Walker the person who runs IDOC. It appears that this tragic woman and perhaps many others are being illegally submitted to "cruel and unusual" punishment -- by that I mean, repeatedly gang-raped and impregnated (!) by state officers. Can you do anything about this??

Sincerely,
L

"Ignorance is Strength" (Orwell, 1984)

This is the cognitive dissonance we need to recognize and pay attention to:

" In his twisting of legal principles, the attorney general has succeeded in creating a perfect paradox. Under Mukasey's Paradox, lawyers cannot commit crimes when they act under the orders of a president -- and a president cannot commit a crime when he acts under advice of lawyers....

When reduced to its purest form, Mukasey's Paradox is that government officials cannot violate the law -- but that because executive privilege is also a law, it's sometimes necessary to violate the law in order to uphold the law."

RTWT! (LA Times Editorial by Jonathan Turley)

He's right, its completely twisted. Wake up Winstons!

Jane Doe at Dwight IL Correctional facility

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Protestant decline in US

Interesting (USN&WR)

" But now Protestants are on the verge of becoming a statistical minority in the U.S., according a study released today. Whereas nearly two thirds of Americans identified themselves as Protestant as recently as the 1980s, only 51 percent identify as Protestant today, the study found."

That's a big change in less than 30 years. I think the revulsion to the tactics of the Religious Right may be why more people are defining themselves as "unaffliliated". I'm pretty sure Lutherans are considered "mainline" even though we have E- for Evangelical in our name (ELCA).

I saw this quote as the intro to a book I picked up at the library ( Fear Up Harsh: An Army Interrogator's Dark Journey Through Iraq):

" Remeber those who are in prison,
as though you were in prison with them;
those who are being tortured,
as though you yourselves were being tortured". (Hebrews 13:3 ,NRSV)


Update: A follow up in the 2/26 Trib with a graphic

Art--> Voice for Tortured Detainees

Artist Daniel Heyman "Abu Ghraib Detainee Interview Project" -showing at DePaul Art Museum thru' May 4th

from here to here to here to here

" When asked, I'll sometimes say I'm writing about torture, but I've found that when I say the word torture, many go glassy-eyed, as if I had just dropped a stone into a deep, deep well. When asked, I'll sometimes say I'm writing about the way photographs are a type of dream, or I'll say that I'm writing a memoir of bewilderment, and leave it at that, but what I mean is the bewilderment of what it is to wake up in an America that has legalized torture. (p.3)" Nick Flynn, Esquire- Feb 08